Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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How exactly did Jesus fulfill the law NOT the prophecies.

by mP in

theres a clear difference between prophecies (predictions of future events) and laws(stuff you should and shouldnt do).. now since xians always says jesus fullfilled the law, how does one fullfill a bunch of requirements like dont murder, dont worship idols, shave your beard like this etc.. there are 613 laws in the torah, jewish rabbis have done all the hard work and we have a nice list on wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot.

im confused which of those some how select a unique individual to be the unique messiah ?

then again there were many messiahs, every king and priest of israel and judea was a messiah.

THE GLADIATOR

Larsinger58 "No matter what, since "interpretation belongs to God" and he is real and true, those prophecies are being fulfilled as he understands them, not as we might misunderstand them."

Why would a loving god send his son to earth to be tortured to death for making prophecies that up set the Romans, knowing that interpretation of prophecy belongs to God? This being the case, mortal man has not the slightest chance of understanding what these prophesies are about.

Who is God doing this for? Mankind or is it just a game to amuse himself, with nothing to do except roll around in heaven all day?

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How exactly did Jesus fulfill the law NOT the prophecies.

by mP in

theres a clear difference between prophecies (predictions of future events) and laws(stuff you should and shouldnt do).. now since xians always says jesus fullfilled the law, how does one fullfill a bunch of requirements like dont murder, dont worship idols, shave your beard like this etc.. there are 613 laws in the torah, jewish rabbis have done all the hard work and we have a nice list on wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot.

im confused which of those some how select a unique individual to be the unique messiah ?

then again there were many messiahs, every king and priest of israel and judea was a messiah.

THE GLADIATOR

Yes mP, I see what's going on.

Your simply pretending he has saved us just like the Muslims pretend that Mohammad has saved them and is taking them to paradise.

This is what all religious beliefs involve. Being the world of the unseen, anyone that can't see IT is spiritually blind or has not asked in the right way. Or is perhaps too attached to sin and fleshy things to want to wake up!

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How exactly did Jesus fulfill the law NOT the prophecies.

by mP in

theres a clear difference between prophecies (predictions of future events) and laws(stuff you should and shouldnt do).. now since xians always says jesus fullfilled the law, how does one fullfill a bunch of requirements like dont murder, dont worship idols, shave your beard like this etc.. there are 613 laws in the torah, jewish rabbis have done all the hard work and we have a nice list on wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot.

im confused which of those some how select a unique individual to be the unique messiah ?

then again there were many messiahs, every king and priest of israel and judea was a messiah.

THE GLADIATOR

mP I understand your frustration. Jeremiah and all the prophets and all the king’s men can never put Jesus together again. Remember the scripture that states that he is coming on a cloud and every eye will see him? Well not the eyes of those to whom this promise was made 2000 years ago, as they are all dead now. Which lucky generation will live to see this event, is anyone’s quess. The get-out clause is that they will see with their 'spiritual eyes.'

Alas the Bible story is nothing more than hopelessly flawed mythology, speculation and wishful thinking. That which is bent cannot be made straight.

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How exactly did Jesus fulfill the law NOT the prophecies.

by mP in

theres a clear difference between prophecies (predictions of future events) and laws(stuff you should and shouldnt do).. now since xians always says jesus fullfilled the law, how does one fullfill a bunch of requirements like dont murder, dont worship idols, shave your beard like this etc.. there are 613 laws in the torah, jewish rabbis have done all the hard work and we have a nice list on wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot.

im confused which of those some how select a unique individual to be the unique messiah ?

then again there were many messiahs, every king and priest of israel and judea was a messiah.

THE GLADIATOR

lovecoogee Please be careful how you talk to Jesus Larsinger.

If you upset his father there will be Hell to pay!

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If you believed the Bible was the true word of God, you'd believe...

by TTWSYF in

i dunnu, that jesus was/is worshipped perhaps.

john 5;23 that all may honor the son just as they honor the father.

whoever does not honor the son does not honor the father, who sent him..

THE GLADIATOR

Come on Tater-T - you don't have to be insane to believe the Bible.....................................................................but it helps!

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When Real Life Becomes Fiction

by TD in

this is a spin-off from the argo thread.. who here has read the 'little house' books by laura ingalls wilder?

were you disappointed when you realized how much could not possibly have happened the way it was told?.

THE GLADIATOR

Real life can never be fiction, but fiction can be mistaken for real life.

Once we stray out of the confines of reality, any trick of the mind is possible.

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How exactly did Jesus fulfill the law NOT the prophecies.

by mP in

theres a clear difference between prophecies (predictions of future events) and laws(stuff you should and shouldnt do).. now since xians always says jesus fullfilled the law, how does one fullfill a bunch of requirements like dont murder, dont worship idols, shave your beard like this etc.. there are 613 laws in the torah, jewish rabbis have done all the hard work and we have a nice list on wiki.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_mitzvot.

im confused which of those some how select a unique individual to be the unique messiah ?

then again there were many messiahs, every king and priest of israel and judea was a messiah.

THE GLADIATOR

“How exactly did Jesus fulfill the law NOT the prophecies.”

Same as the Santa Clause figure fulfilled Noel but never really brought the presents.

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My Left Leg Was Amputated

by TOTH in

jw
friends

i have been out of commission for several weeks.

back around the first of the year i developed an infection in my left foot.

due to diabetes and poor circulation the doctors were unable to save my foot and so i received a below the knee amputation.

THE GLADIATOR

TOTH I can't begin to imagine what it is like to have to adjust to such a loss.

Hope that you get used to the prosthesis when it arrives and are able to get back to your normal routine.

My thoughts are with you.

Trevor

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Could the JWs sway you back...?

by new22day in

op based on mr. freeze's topic - could attending the meetings/studying again sway any of you back to the org.

hearing the propaganda over and over again is pretty powerful i'm sure.

(i'm a non-jw, non-christian (no offense), stubborn as a bull and even i had moments of pause based on some of the doctrine (lasted 30 seconds) but i never had family/friends at stake or a background in this.

THE GLADIATOR

For the right compensation I could be persuaded. Every man has his breaking point!

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If there is a God . . .

by zed is dead in

jw
friends

THE GLADIATOR

"And about 30,000 others......pick yours....or not."

Thanks but I'd rather pick my nose!